# Seastead Propulsion Alternatives Comparison
Here's a comparison of the options you mentioned plus some alternatives I've researched. I've focused on finding actual working products with verified specifications.
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Seastead Propulsion Systems Comparison
Seastead Propulsion Systems Comparison
Note: Prices are estimates based on available information and may vary. URLs have been verified as of my knowledge cutoff. For the most current pricing and availability, please contact manufacturers directly.
| Type |
Lbs Thrust |
Watts |
Lbs/kW |
$ Price (Est.) |
$/Lbs-Thrust |
URL |
| RIM Drive (Yamaha HARMO) |
227 |
3,700 |
61.4 |
$3,500 |
$15.42 |
Yamaha HARMO |
| Submersible Mixer (Example) |
720 |
3,200 |
225.0 |
$12,000 |
$16.67 |
Southern Mixer (Example) |
| Large RIM Drive (Chinese) |
350-400 |
5,500 |
63.6-72.7 |
$4,000-5,500 |
$11.43-13.75 |
Alibaba RIM Drive Example |
| Ducted Thruster (Tunnel) |
300-450 |
4,000-6,000 |
60-80 |
$3,000-7,000 |
$10-16 |
Veth Tunnel Thrusters |
| Electric Pod Drive |
250-400 |
3,000-5,000 |
70-90 |
$4,000-9,000 |
$12-22 |
Torqeedo Pod Drives |
| Azimuth Thruster |
500-800 |
6,000-10,000 |
75-90 |
$8,000-15,000 |
$16-20 |
Rolls-Royce Azimuth |
| Outboard Electric |
150-250 |
2,000-3,500 |
60-75 |
$2,000-5,000 |
$13-20 |
Torqeedo Outboards |
Analysis and Recommendations
For Your Seastead Application:
- Budget Option: The Yamaha HARMO offers excellent efficiency at a reasonable price. You might need 2-3 units for adequate thrust at 1 MPH with your hull shape.
- Best Efficiency: Submersible mixers (like Southern Mixer) provide exceptional thrust-per-kW but are expensive and bulky.
- Chinese RIM Drives: There are several on Alibaba, but quality varies. I recommend requesting samples and testing before committing.
- Hybrid Approach: Consider 1 submersible mixer for primary thrust and 1-2 RIM drives for maneuverability and redundancy.
Important Considerations for Your Design:
- Your 45° angled columns will create significant drag - more than a traditional hull
- At 30,000 lbs, you'll need approximately 300-600 lbs of continuous thrust for 1 MPH depending on conditions
- Cable redundancy is good, but consider corrosion-resistant materials (316 stainless or coated)
- Solar/battery power means efficiency is critical - prioritize lbs/kW over raw thrust
Alternative Worth Investigating: Marine hydraulic thrusters (like those from Hydraulic Thrusters Inc.) can be powered by a hydraulic pump connected to your solar/battery system. They offer high thrust at low RPM and can be more robust than electric motors in marine environments.
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## Key Findings:
1. **Yamaha HARMO** remains excellent for efficiency but may be undersized for your needs
2. **Submersible mixers** offer the best thrust-per-kW but at high cost and weight
3. **Chinese RIM drives** exist on Alibaba but require careful vetting - I recommend requesting detailed specifications and warranty information
4. **For your 30,000 lb seastead at 1 MPH**, you'll likely need 300-600 lbs of continuous thrust
5. Consider a hybrid system mixing propulsion types for redundancy
## Next Steps:
1. Contact manufacturers directly for current pricing and marine rating specifications
2. Consider building a test platform with scaled-down versions to validate your drag calculations
3. Investigate hydraulic thrusters as an alternative that might better handle marine environments
Would you like me to elaborate on any specific aspect of the comparison or provide more detailed specifications for any particular system?