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1/6-Scale Triangular Seastead Model – Wave/ Motion Scaling & Comparison
Triangular Seastead (1/6 scale) – Wave Height Scaling, Motions, and Acceleration Comparison
Important limitation: I can’t directly view or measure the YouTube video from the link you provided from within this chat.
That means I cannot honestly “estimate the wave heights in the video” or extract motion/acceleration time histories without you providing
(a) screenshots/frames with a known scale in the same plane as the waves, or (b) the measured wave-maker settings / measured wave heights,
or (c) tracked motion data (even rough) from the video.
Good news: I can still (1) give you the correct scaling relationships (including the key point that accelerations are the same under Froude scaling),
(2) compute full-scale dimensions from your model, (3) give a method to measure wave heights from the footage, and
(4) provide a physics-based comparison of expected motions vs a ~50 ft catamaran and ~60 ft monohull, with typical acceleration ranges.
1) Geometry you gave & full-scale equivalent
| Item |
Model |
Scale factor |
Full scale (≈) |
| Planform triangle side length |
10 ft |
× 6 |
60 ft |
| Float/leg/column diameter |
8 in = 0.667 ft |
× 6 |
48 in = 4.0 ft |
| Float/leg/column length |
4 ft |
× 6 |
24 ft |
2) Correct Froude scaling (what your “slowed by Froude factor” implies)
For free-surface gravity waves and floating-body response in the “Froude similarity” regime:
- Length scale:
λ = L_full / L_model = 6
- Time scale:
T_full / T_model = √λ ≈ 2.449
- Velocity scale:
V_full / V_model = √λ ≈ 2.449
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Acceleration scale:
a_full / a_model = (L_full/T_full²) / (L_model/T_model²) = 1
→ under ideal Froude scaling, accelerations in ft/s² (or g’s) match.
If your slowed-down video uses the time scale factor √6, then (in principle) the visual timing corresponds to full scale.
But the wave height in the footage still needs a physical measurement (or at least a frame-based scale reference) to convert to full-scale feet.
3) How to estimate wave height from the video (what I need from you, or you can do it)
3.1 What to measure
Pick a segment where:
- The camera is steady, and the wave face is visible, and
- There is a known dimension in the same image plane (e.g., the 10 ft side, or the 8 in column diameter).
Then measure (even roughly) in pixels:
- Wave height H = crest-to-trough distance in pixels (same vertical line)
- Reference length R = known object size in pixels (e.g., column diameter = 8 in, or a side length segment)
3.2 Convert pixel measurement to model feet
If you use the column diameter as reference:
Scale (ft per pixel) = D_model(ft) / D_pixels
H_model(ft) = H_pixels * (ft per pixel)
Where D_model = 8 in = 0.667 ft.
3.3 Convert model wave height to full scale
H_full = λ * H_model = 6 * H_model
3.4 What to send me so I can compute it for you
- 2–3 screenshots where the wave and the column diameter are both clearly visible, and/or
- Your measured wave heights in the model test (even “about 1 inch”, “about 2 inches”, etc.), and
- Wave period (seconds in model time) if you know it.
4) “Six times that” – quick lookup table (fill in your measured model wave heights)
| Model wave height (crest-to-trough) |
Full-scale wave height (×6) |
| 0.5 in | 3 in (0.25 ft) |
| 1.0 in | 6 in (0.5 ft) |
| 2.0 in | 12 in (1.0 ft) |
| 3.0 in | 18 in (1.5 ft) |
| 4.0 in | 24 in (2.0 ft) |
| 6.0 in | 36 in (3.0 ft) |
| 8.0 in | 48 in (4.0 ft) |
5) What your structure “is” dynamically (based on the dimensions): closer to a small semi-sub than a boat
A 60-ft-side triangular platform supported by three ~4-ft-diameter columns with ~24-ft length (draft/column length) behaves more like a
very simplified semi-submersible / three-column platform than a displacement monohull or planing craft.
Key consequences:
- Small waterplane area (relative to a monohull) can reduce wave-excitation forces in heave/pitch (good for comfort).
- Restoring stiffness still comes from the waterplane area of the columns; with 4-ft columns it may be “stiffer” (shorter natural periods) than typical large semi-subs.
- Large transverse spacing between columns (triangle corners) can strongly reduce roll/pitch angles vs a monohull of similar length, because the buoyancy shifts at the corners provide a big righting lever arm.
- Potential downside: If the deck is near the water, you can get deck-edge slamming or “wet deck” events similar to catamaran bridge-deck slamming, depending on freeboard and wave steepness.
6) First-order heave natural period estimate (illustrative, depends heavily on displacement & waterline)
This is a back-of-envelope check to explain “why it might feel stiffer/softer than a boat.” Actual values require your displacement, CG, draft, and added-mass.
Heave natural period (very simplified) can be approximated by:
T_heave ≈ 2π * √( m / (ρ g A_wp) )
For three columns, waterplane area:
A_wp ≈ 3 * (π d² / 4)
With full-scale d = 4 ft:
- Area per column ≈ π·(4²)/4 = π·4 ≈ 12.57 ft²
- Total A_wp ≈ 37.7 ft²
If the platform displacement is on the order of (example) 450 ft³ of seawater (≈ 28,800 lb), then the simplified heave period comes out
around ~4 seconds. If displacement is much larger (ballast, heavier deck), that period increases.
Typical semi-submersibles are designed for much longer heave periods (often 15–25 s) by reducing waterplane area and increasing effective mass/added-mass.
Your 4-ft columns may produce a comparatively “stiff” response unless the overall displacement is large and/or the columns are shaped to reduce waterplane effects.
7) Accelerations: how to infer them from the video (and why model ≈ full-scale)
7.1 Key scaling point
Under Froude similarity, accelerations match between model and full scale (in g’s).
So if the model shows (for example) “noticeably snappy” vertical motion, the full-scale will feel similarly “snappy” in terms of acceleration,
even though the absolute distances are larger and the time is longer.
7.2 From observed heave amplitude and period
If a point on the platform heaves approximately sinusoidally:
z(t) = A sin(ω t), where ω = 2π/T
a_max = A ω² = A (2π/T)²
Example (just to show the math): if the model heave amplitude is A = 1 inch = 0.083 ft at period T = 1.6 s:
- ω = 2π/1.6 = 3.93 rad/s
- a_max = 0.083 * (3.93²) = 1.28 ft/s² ≈ 0.040 g
- Full-scale: A_full = 6 inches, T_full = √6·1.6 ≈ 3.9 s → a_max remains ≈ 0.040 g
7.3 From video tracking (best method)
If you can provide a clip or frames, you can extract motion vs time by tracking:
- A corner of the deck (or a marker) relative to the horizon (for pitch/roll), and
- Vertical position relative to a fixed scale reference (for heave).
Then numerically differentiate (with smoothing) to get velocity and acceleration. If you send me the tracked (time, position) data
(even exported from a simple tracker), I can compute peak/RMS accelerations.
8) Comparison to a ~50 ft catamaran and ~60 ft monohull (qualitative + typical acceleration magnitudes)
8.1 What usually drives “comfort”
- Monohull (60 ft displacement): typically larger roll angles, longer roll periods; can be “softer” in some vertical motions midship but can slam at the bow; roll can be fatiguing.
- Catamaran (50 ft): typically lower roll angles, but can have sharper vertical accelerations and bridge-deck slamming depending on clearance and sea state; can feel “stiffer”/snappier.
- Three-column platform: often low pitch/roll angles (good) if the deck is high enough and columns are well spaced; vertical accelerations depend strongly on heave natural period vs wave period.
8.2 Expected motion tendencies for your triangle (if deck clearance is adequate)
- Roll & pitch angles: likely smaller than a monohull and often comparable-to-or-better than a cat, because buoyancy is at three widely spaced points.
- Heave: could be moderate. If the heave natural period is short (few seconds), it may follow shorter waves more than a “true” semi-sub, increasing vertical acceleration.
- Surge/sway/yaw: depends mostly on mooring and damping; a free-floating platform can yaw/translate more than a monohull underway.
8.3 Typical vertical acceleration ranges on 50–60 ft boats (order-of-magnitude)
These are broad “sea state dependent” comfort/operation ranges reported across seakeeping literature and design guidance (exact values vary with speed, heading, and sea spectrum).
| Craft / Condition |
Typical vertical accel (RMS / peak) felt onboard |
Notes |
| 60 ft displacement monohull (moderate seas, slow) |
~0.03–0.10 g RMS; peaks ~0.15–0.25 g |
Often roll-dominant discomfort; bow can see higher peaks. |
| 50 ft cruising cat (moderate seas) |
~0.05–0.12 g RMS; peaks ~0.20–0.40 g |
Bridge-deck slamming can create sharp transient peaks. |
| 3-column platform (your concept, if no slamming) |
Could be ~0.03–0.10 g RMS; peaks depend on resonance & slamming |
If heave period is short and matches waves, accelerations can rise; if long/decoupled, can be very comfortable. |
The single biggest factor that can make your platform feel “worse than expected” is slamming (deck-edge impact, column emergence/re-entry, or wave slap under structure).
Slamming produces high, short-duration accelerations that a simple sinusoid model won’t predict.
9) What I can infer from your described test (even without seeing the footage)
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Because your model is relatively large (10 ft side) and the columns are slender,
the test likely captures qualitative behavior well for relative pitch/roll/heave tendencies,
provided the wave steepness and Reynolds effects aren’t dominating.
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If the platform in the test mainly shows small pitch/roll and smooth heave, that is a good sign that full scale
will avoid the “violent roll” a monohull can have at anchor.
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If the test shows quick, snappy vertical motion, full scale will likely have similar g-levels (since acceleration scales ~1 under Froude scaling).
10) What to send me to produce the specific numbers you asked for (wave heights + accelerations)
- Wave height from the test (even rough): e.g., “~2 inches crest-to-trough at the model.”
- Wave period at the model: seconds between crests (video timestamp is fine).
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A screenshot where I can see:
- the wave crest and trough, and
- the 8-inch diameter column clearly (so I can scale pixels → inches)
- Draft / freeboard in the test (how submerged were the columns; deck height above mean waterline).
With those, I can:
- Estimate model wave height H and full-scale H_full = 6H
- Estimate heave amplitude and compute peak and RMS accelerations (in g)
- Compare those accelerations directly to typical ranges for a 50 ft cat and 60 ft mono
If you upload 2–3 clear frames (or tell me “the model waves were about X inches”), I’ll fill in the wave-height estimates and produce a revised HTML block with the actual numbers.
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